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people this way. >> cenk: it's really interesting because on the other hand israel seems to be fairly happy with him, so are we. we send in more aid and military weapons to help him. that's something you might not necessarily expect. he's deep muslim brotherhood in domestic policies of egypt, but externally seems to be saying the right things. >> externally he has not rocked the boat. i think washington and tel aviv want him not to rock the boat, so they're treating him with kid gloves in a way. but i i think he did put enormous pressure on benjamin netanyahu not to send troops into gaza. he is an ambiguous figure with regard to washington and israel. they're suspicious of him. they're caution, cautious, but he's all they got the only legitimate force in egypt. now he's undermining his legitimacy with these emergency decrees and so forth. >> cenk: then we go to an organization called black block which is not much of an organization because they have no chain of command. let me have "time" magazine describe it a little bit for you. they boast that they're willing to use force against i
for global annihilation in israel and iran. this issue was addressed >> quite sophisticated. it's not an issue of either way major war >> jon: i'm sorry. because of my family history i can only hear what he was saying as expressing disappointment in my career. i don't know what he really said. can anybody give us a translation of what he was talking about there, nonguilt laden >> most experts interpreted that as israel sort of backing away from a threat of launching a full-scale military attack. >> jon: israel standing down? is that a suggestion that they won't launch a pre-emptive strike against iran? is there anything i should know? >> israel could launch a pre-emptive strike to stop chemical weapons >> jon: so close. thankfully there's still not world war iii. it's a regional war. number 4,692. who is going to go for bat for a ruthless dictator like assad >> iran is sticking by syria this is the strongest warning we've heard yet that any attack on syria would be considered by iran as an attack on iran. >> jon: damn you, transitive property. all we had to do was keep syria and
into egypt, threaten israel. there were very important reasons why we were there, not just the state department, but other government agencies. whether or when we go back will depend upon the security situation. >> all of that and much more ahead. but first, on the heels of president obama blasting rush limbaugh and fox news, democratic senator mary landrieu taking a shot of her own at fox. >> i am not going to keep cutting the discretionary budget, which by the way, is not out of control, despite what you hear on fox news. >> so is this trend going to continue? what do they get out of it? former speaker of the house, newt gingrich is here. at least president obama and senator landrieu put the straw man up there, apparently, fox news is their straw man. >> they're very different arguments. mary landrieu's argument, with all due respect is nuts. the idea that discretionary spending's not too high, the idea that this government's not too big, the idea that the deficit isn't too large, this is not a fox news problem, this is a wash politician problem. i think they can try to find somebo
in the middle east, israel. an air attack across the syrian border. everyone waiting for what happens next. abc's steve global affairs correspondent martha raddatz tracking it for us tonight. martha? >> reporter: diane, this is a very significant move and clearly a red line for israel. this is what we know. officials say truckloads of dangerous weapons were being loaded from a facility in syria and then were headed for lebanon. officials say inside those trucks were fa-17s. those are very capable, mobile radar-guided surface to air missiles. israel little war planes were launched to destroy the trucks and stop them from entering lebanon before the militant group hezbollah could get their hands on them. the building where the trucks were loading and departing was also hit. hezbollah is a swosh enemy of israel. if hezbollah had gotten those missiles, it would have significantly increased their capability in any future conflict with israel. so, this was not israel getting involved in the conflict in syria, per se, it was very much israel making a preemptive strike to protect itself. but this will
plausible enemy which you would use f-16s and stanks israel. >> greta: who gets the money from this? who is making all the money from this purchase? >> i don't know whether they are surplus or corporations in america that are building them. i just don't know the answer to that. >> in either case, there are lots of other markets in the world. egypt is very bad place to send weapons. >> greta: why would we do that? >> to prop up the egyptian government. >> greta: why would we do that? we have hillary clinton on the topic, is it money or political? >> originally we were doing it because the agreement was reached under mubarak when he was dictator and part of a long term relationship with egypt which had been very supportive of israel. now it's a different world and i suspect our bureaucracy hasn't caught up with reality. there is no other plausible --. >> greta: egypt is not being threatened by any neighbor. israel is not -- >> you got deserts to the west, deserts to the west and east. >> they want to brag and say, we have f-16s and tanks or they want to use them against somebody. >> they h
president had committed itself to a two-state solution for israel and palestinians, which i suppose is good news. she did broach a subject of commons that has emerged that he has made in recent times but israel and the jewish state, very controversial comments. he called on the egyptian people to "nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred for jews and scientists." -- hatred for jews and zionists." it was not very clear. the one thing that was clear was he did not retract the statements or withdraw them. >> thanks very much for joining us there. >> the u.s. news agency apa says that israel carried out an air strike in syria close to the border with lebanon. >> the agency said the strike was on a convoy carrying sophisticated weaponry to the islamist militant group hezbollah. they also said the arms included russian missiles, which officials said could have been strategically game changing in the hands of hezbollah. >> staying in this area, international donors have pledged more than 1 billion euros for those displaced by the civil war in the country. united nations secretary general sai
that is visible from space. >>> direct strike. israel has now attacked syria in an air strike. what does this mean for this very dangerous civil war? and all the nations nearby? >>> and the parent trap. if you think it's tough cheering for your kids on the sidelines, imagine your kids are the opposing coaches in the super bowl. tonight, we'll hear from their folks. "nightly news" begins now. >>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >> good evening. it takes just a moment to remember back clearly to the very moment we learned about the shootings at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. to remember how shocked we all were and how sad and sorry a scene that was. well, this is still very much the post newtown era. so there was great emotion today at a hearing on guns on capitol hill. especially when a very well-known survivor of gun violence, gabby giffords, came forward to deliver her own remarks. and yet during the hearing, we learned of another shooting. this one in arizona. a workplace, one gunman, three shooting victims, one
. >> thank you. >> ifill: now to the middle east and new tensions along the border between israel and syria. the "newshour" has confirmed reports that israeli war planes struck a convoy inside syria today. syrian officials have confirmed some details of those reports and disputed others. israel would not confirm or deny the strike. margaret warner has been reporting on the developments from jerusalem. i spoke with her a short while ago. margaret, it's good to see you. based on your reporting, what can you tell us about this attack today? >> well, gwen, israeli officials are completely mum about this, but i've been able to confirm from a u.s. official that, in fact, the attack took place, that hit was a convoy of trucks carrying s.a.-17 antimissile components or the missiles themselves headed toward leban lebanon. the official i talked to said it actually occurred fairly near damascus but that the missiles or missile parts were already in hezbollah's hands. in other words, that this was not a syrian army convoy taking the weapons to hezbollah, the militant shiite group in lebanon, but hezbol
to the middle east and new tensions along the border between israel and syria. the "newshour" has confirmed reports that israeli war planes struck a convoy inside syria today. syrian officials have confirmed some details of those reports and disputed others. israel would not confirm or deny the strike. margaret warner has been reporting on the developments from jerusalem. i spoke with her a short while ago. margaret, it's good to see you. based on your reporting what can you tell us about this attack today? >> well gwen israeli officials are completely mum about this, but i've been able to confirm from a u.s. official that, in fact the attack took place that hit was a convoy of trucks carrying s.a.-17 antimissile components or the missiles themselves headed toward lebanon lebanon. the official i talked to said it actually occurred fairly near damascus but that the missiles or missile parts were already in hezbollah's hands. in other words that this was not a syrian army convoy taking the weapons to hezbollah, the militant shiite group in lebanon, but hezbollah already had possession of the
antiaircraft and weapons. and he said this is israel's warning to the president and his regime that they will not tolerate any weapons for israel's destruction. if this happened, it's certainly an escalation. and there's some degree of confusion around this. >> it is, and before we talk about this at all, we have to remember, we're dealing with one government, the israelis, that never admit some of this action that they carry out and we're dealing with another government, the syrians, who habitually lie. we have to look at all of this. two reports, the first that this convoy, carrying amount i aircraft weapons, was struck near damascus to beirut highway, near the border, and that seems to be the most reliable sources talking about that particular attack. and then the syrian state tv has announced that no, this was in fact an attack on a military research center in the suburb of damascus. that's what they're saying has happened. and the israelis as i said, not of confirming or denying any of this. but any expert you talk to, shep, will tell you this is about hezbollah in lebanon
. there has been no official confirmation from israel. i spoke to the chief international correspondent a few moments ago. what can you tell us about what was hit? >> we had two different accounts. we had reports that israeli jets for the first time had bombed a convoy of weapons heading from syria towards lebanon to support hezbollah. hezbollah has been expressing its concern in recent days and it sent its military intelligence chief to washington where he will express concern about chemical weapons from syria of going into the hands of hezbollah. on the nighttime news, they were taking satisfaction in the fact there had not been any verbal response from damascus or hezbollah. no physical response as well. syria came out with their own version of offense which was there was no convoy but they had bombed a scientific research center close to damascus and it used a rather interesting phrase, that it was used to support the resistance. that was the only thing they could agree on. it was something for hezbollah. what it was though, we are not sure. >> can you make any speculation about what kind
involving syria. the syrian military is claiming that israel has bombed a research facility. senior international correspondent sara sidner is getting miked up. we'll talk to her about what is happening next. would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, and we do everything we can t
to not a freedom movement to a theocracy with the muslim brotherhood who is a sworn enemy of israel and 9 united states. we need to suspend the issue of giving him foreign aid as well as weapons. >> sean: they are claiming they made that deal. they made the deal back in 2010. president didn't have a problem reneging on the canadian pipeline, why couldn't do the do it here. giving weapons to radicals? >> i have talked to some individuals both israeli government and our government. the one respected institution in egypt is the egyptian military. the generals that were in charge of the egyptian military have been replaced to now have generals that are sympathetic to the muslim brotherhood. i would say we should suspend all aid to the egyptian military unless we see a regime change. >> sean: we're giving these jets free and tanks free and giving them $1.5 billion tax payer dollars. >>> we have to understand it's not a theology, it's an ideology and historically it's been militant. any time you have an islamic theocracy, it is going to not be tolerant of western secularism and it's going to be oppres
that has managed to keep its peace with israel for a substantial period of time. and by and large we haven't seen much activity except in the fights between hamas and israel, and ands he bu la and israel. so we are definitely very much invested in the situation in egypt, and in a peaceful egypt that we can continue to cooperate with. >> jennifer: right. we certainly do want to see a peaceful egypt. you could give in coming secretary of state john kerry advice, what would you say to him? >> i think the course that has been chartered bisek tear clinton and president obama participate, in terms of dealing with president morsi have been a very, very wise course and i think we have seen that particularly in light of the events that occurred around the attack on the american embassy in cairo during the same time there was an attack in benghazi. and by and large this strategy of accepting morsi as president is the only way america can go in this reward. we can't afford to lose another country to the islamists, and we did with iran in 1979. however, the only thing i am
week. israel has become the first country to boycott a u.n. human rights council review of its record on human rights. the acting president of the human-rights council convened the session in geneva on tuesday, only to see that no israeli representatives had shown up. >> we were to convene this afternoon to proceed with the review of israel, however, i see that the delegation of israel is not in the room. >> israel severed contacts with the council last year after the body launched an investigation of illegal settlements in the occupied west bank. the news agency reuters is reporting john brennan, the nominee for the head of the cia, had detailed knowledge of the agency's torture program while serving under president george w. bush. official records apparently show brennan received regular internal cia updates about the progress of torture techniques, including waterboarding. it is not clear if you raise any objections at the time he was made aware. attorneys for five alleged conspirators in the 9/11 attacks have asked a military judge to allow them to spend 48 hours at the guantanamo
, but our david martin at the peak tells us, that israel hit a convoy believed to be carrying weaponweapons to hezbollah, the militant group based in lebanon. syria is in the middle of a ruinous civil war. israel and the u.s. are worried that syrian arms, including chemical weapons, could wind up in the hands of terrorists. we have new information on the problems with boeing's revolutionary 787. we'll show you why it's a lot more difficult for police to trace a gun than you might expect. and we'll remember the last of the andrews sisters when the cbs evening news continues. not easy to find, but worth it. ot, but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my docto prescrib. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis,
with the best of intentions. but it's still a bad choice. hagel is anti-woman, anti-choice, anti-israel, anti-gay, and pro-assault weapon. that's just not what we voted for in november. chuck hagel doesn't share our values. there are other people who can do the job. why do we need someone like this? we don't. urge your senator to vote no on hagel. >> so why the anti-hagel backers in the group use your mandate so shy in a source close to the group told "huffington post," quote, those involved are choosing to stay anonymous because they're allies with the obama administration and hesitant to criticize the president publicly for fear of retribution or pressure from the white house. the source characterized members as a concerned group of people who have some questions about chuck hagel, including individuals who have fought for lgbt rights for a long time. oh, really? that just doesn't sound right to a lot of people, including many reporters and our own rachel maddow. let's listen to rachel. >> probably they're asserting there's some kind of broad democrat opposition to chuck hagel. we're just n
a shipment of weapons to the anti-israel militant group hezbollah in neighboring lebanon. the vice premier of israel warned if there's any signs that seeria was losing its grip on chemical weapons there would be military air strikes. no reports that there were chemical weapons in this strike, the associated press saying it's anti-aircraft missiles. the first time israel has fired into syria since 2007. definitely represents an escalation of the situation there. syria, of course, in the midst of a raging civil war. back to you. >> thanks, michelle. our next guest has analysis of america's fiscal situation and the takeaway is this. despite our debt fast approaching $17 trillion, spending cuts will actually make matters worse. >> and the reason is it's getting so much attention is that john makin, a noted conservative economist, and is a resident scholar at the american enterprise institute. also with us is lindsey piegsa, an economist at ftn financial, and she sees things a little bit differently. john, we'll go to you first because the headline there is you mean to tell me a conservative ec
from israel. i spoke to the chief international correspondent a few moments ago. what can you tell us about what was hit? >> we had two different accounts. we had reports that israeli jets for the first time had bombed a convoy of weapons heading from syria towards lebanon to support hezbollah. hezbollah has been expressing its concern in recent days and it sent its military intelligence chief to washington where he will express concern about chemical weapons from syria of going into the hands of hezbollah. on the nighttime news, they were taking satisfaction in the fact there had not been any verbal response from damascus or hezbollah. no physical response as well. syria came out with their own version of offense which was there was no convoy but they had bombed a scientific research center close to damascus and it used a rather interesting phrase that it was used to support the resistance. that was the only thing they could agree on. it was something for hezbollah. what it was though, we are not sure. >> can you make any speculation about what kind of impact this might have? >> as y
for israel's claim to the land that they live on. they are the front line for us. they are the ones who are receiving the blunt of the terrorist attacks, not us. >> reporter: but the main emphasis of this inauguration day, the president and prayer for him. >> prayer can change things, it always does. >> reporter: paul strand, cbn news, washington. > >> wendy: it always does. you can get daily reports from christian world news by going to cbn's facebook page and click "like." stay with us, we'll be right back. star spang >> wendy: one out of the three south koreans identifies himself as a christian, and six of the largest churches in the world are in that nation. and more than 20,00,000 koreans are at work. it actually began over a century ago with western missionaries. >> port of buson is a major asset to south korea's dynamic economy. but he had another reputation, at the wilderness of the gospel. daifdavies was an accomplished educator, and founder of the school in melbourne, australia, when he felt called to take the gospel to korea. yet, tragically, davi davies died the day after ar
the west and israel. >> how did they launch a monkey into space? [ laughter ] >> stephen: excellent question, gretchen. how did they launch a monkey into space? [ laughter ] the possibilities are endless. [ laughter ] did they use a giant slingshot? or a monkey sized t-shirt cannon? [ laughter ] or did they do the obvious: put yellow-tinted glasses on a monkey and wait until a crescent moon so it thinks it's a banana and climbs up there himself? [ laughter ] how did they do it?! >> they've got rockets over there. [ laughter ] >> stephen: huh. they've got rockets over there. i did not see that coming. [ laughter ] folks, all this time we've been worrying about enriched uranium-- iran has been acquiring weapons of macaque destruction. [ laughter ] it won't be long until icbm's-- intercontinental ballistic monkeys-- are hurling their feces down on us from their sub-orbital tire swings! what happened to america? when i was a kid, we led the world in airborne chimp technology, and every child dreamt of growing up to launch a bewildered, frightened animal into the icy void of space. [ lau
an ad you mentioned. no on hagel as d as it is referred to. >> hagel is anti-woman, anti-choice. anti-israel. anti-gay and pro assault weapon. that's just not what we voted for in november. chuck hagel doesn't share our values. >> that's just one of the ads. you have this newly minted or freshly minted organizations that said it is a lab ral gay rights group and performed through a prominent firm. what is going on there? >> they left it so that we can only guess. if they really are prominent democrats and gay rights activists, they are very much under cutting here. one can only speculate that perhaps they are not everything they are cracked up to be and maybe they can say who they are. otherwise we are only left to speculate and it's suspicious and perhaps they wanted to leave it that way. >> worry that said with the suspicion and all the other concerns about these anonymous donors out there, could these ads possibly have an impact on the hearing tomorrow? we talked to a number of senator who is met with chuck hagel and will proceed with the confirmation that he answered the questions and co
is a vacuum, which is not good for israel and not good for those palestinians who still believe in a two-state solution. >> arguably, it's harder because of the arab spring and other events that happen. in retrospect, was there a lot of disagreement in the team about how to handle mubarak and do you think it sent a signal to other allies, saudi arabia, bahrain, that we're not going to be there for them? did it unsettle other parts of the world? >> i think it was an inevitable force of history, that when egyptian people were rising up in such large numbers asking for what we believe in, freedom and opportunity, a chance to, you know, chart their own democratic future, the united states cannot and should not be on the side of those who deny that. at the same time, i think there was a tremendous effort made to try to work with, send messages to, president mubarak and those around him to handle the situation in a fashion that would create some openings for real reform going forward. but that turned out not to be possible. >> that brings to mind the 2008 campaign commercial. when that phone c
by reports of military action involving israel. correspondent conor powell is sorting through the information from jerusalem. >> long fear that chaos of the bloody civil war, weapons both conventional and others could fall in hands of the enemies. they strike at weapons convoy in syria near the lebanese border. it was suspected of sophisticated russian made antiair-craft missiles on the way to hezbollah fighters. sirria, however, claims that israeli jets hit a research facility outside damascus, killing two people. israeli officials refused to comment. on sunday, israeli vice premier raised the possibility of this scenario. >> it means that chemical weapons if it will move to the end of the -- [ inaudible ] it would change dramatically the balance of power in the middle east. this is something that most of the world cannot tolerate. >> in a cautionary move they deployed the iron dome rocket defense system to the northern boarder to prevent an attack. >> recent weeks, the u.s. and israeli officials had meetings to discuss chemical weapons stock pile. they believe it's essential to the long-ter
with israel, we'll give you economic and military assistance. that kept the peace for 40 years. i talked about that yesterday, and he said it worked. now, what's threatening to upset the apple cart? the new muslim brotherhood leadership is reconsidering the peace agreement with israel and making friends with iran and other countries in the region. what if that is getting upset? in addition to that, there's also terrorist groups, which are not morsi. he's muslim brotherhood, but in addition, there's terrorist groups setting up shop in what should be a demilitarized zone. melissa: something to watch again. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. melissa: time now for today's fuel gauge. oil futures hitting 19-week highs, strong u.s. housing data. fuels speculation that demand for crude would rise settling up more than 1% at 97.57 a barrel. bp's guilty plea accepted over the gulf oil spill paying $4 billion to settle criminal penalties and manslaughter charges for its role in the disaster. an oil barge crash on the mississippi river causing gridlock for commercial traffic. the coast guard
treaty with israel, egypt helps america with stability in a dangerous region and in the fight against terror. now, with these scenes, the head of the army is warning america's friend is on the verge of collapse. they tell us their new president mohamed morsi is acting like a dictator, like the one every day egyptians overthrew, just two years ago. these are carpenters, tour guides and teachers and they believe if they don't rise up, their country will be turned into an islamic state. we are bracing for another violent night. many of the people we've spoken to here on the street say they won't let up until they get the freedoms and democracy they fought so hard for. diane? >> thanks so much, lama. >>> now, we head over to china tonight, where you can see it once again, that smog, back. and again, still beyond the ability to measure exactly how much hazardous material is in what the chinese are breathing. and there was another staggering sight, an infrastructure collapsed in guangzhou. watch. a whole complex of homes swallowed by a massive sink hole, 30 feet wide, triggered by construct
those weapons. and we knew there was smuggling radios that would go into sinai threaten israel. there are other reasons why we were there not just the state department but other government agencies. when and where we go back will depend on the security situation. what kind of security support diplomats will have. i have dangerous posts all over the world. we have people in incredibly high threaten environments. >> i have seen some of them. >> you have seen some of them. they are there because we believe being there is in america's national interest, particularly our security interests. >>> now to stories you can bank on this morning. joining us from the fox business network is lauren simonetti. you are telling us college is worth it. it's a million dollar investment. questioning the value of the bachelor's degree. college might not be worth the high price tag. he says studies suggest colleges are not worth it are not only wrong they are dead wrong. the bachelor's degree holders over the course of a lifetime $2.3 million. by comparison just a high school diploma average $1.3 mil
as israel. the report says the militant groups operating both independently and together are increasing their activities. the report by a counterterrorism expert says the militants are determined to take revenge on the west. >>> the top u.s. commander in afghanistan says he believes afghan security forces will soon be ready to take the lead in the war with the taliban. nato troops will begin scaling back their involvement in preparation for leaving the country at the end of 2014. >> there is a consideration for endearing presence here. we will continue that work in the aftermath of 2014. at the end of 2014 i'm confident they can defend this country and the people. >> u.s. troops have been in afghanistan for 11 years. >>> time now 5:14. two people with two very different gun policy agendas will testify on capitol hill before a senate committee. as kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom the nra is ready to fight. >> reporter: the nra executive director is going before the senate in its first hearing on gun violence since the deadly school shoot newtown. wayne lap area is
sanctions, his views toward israel, hamas and hezbollah, and that there is wide and deep concern about his policies. >> reporter: now, one of his more infamous remarks is a snide reference to what he called the jewish lobby so chuck snuimer of new york after hagel apologized for previous statements and positions. senator schumer agreed to support him as did barbara boxer. but many analysts don't like the pre-hearing conversion. >> all of a sudden the candidate for high office in any administration has a sudden transformation and repudiates everything he has in his life and anything he ever said. >> reporter: almost lance armstrong like. but now the white house is gearing up support and supporters in advance of tomorrow's confirmation hearing. >> eric: thank you, jim. >> the president is puck for fashion action on immigration reform but critics insisting we have to secure the border first. my next guest is one of them. he is representing a group of immigration agents suing the president over policy changes they say prevent them from doing their jobs. with us now, more chris crane. thanks fo
-choice. anti-israel, aspect gay and pro assault weapon. that's not what we voted for in november. chuck hagel doesn't share our values. >> wow. pro assault weapon is a perjurorative. i didn't realize that, but it's called a liberal gay rights group and buying ads through a republican group. i am confused. help me out. >> this ad by a campaign is being done by the same company that the house and the senate republican political parties and campaigns buy all their ads through. i find it hard to believe that any liberal group will go to this douchl do so much less a gay liberal group. it's a farce. i don't have a clue who is paying for this and it doesn't matter. they are protected by the tax code. we will never know. it's ridiculous to think he is anti-women and all these things. he was conservative for nebraska, but not hitler or somebody. i find it preposterous that this ad is out there running. >> as steve mentioned, hagel's confirmation is not really in doubt at this point. my question is, was it ever really in doubt? the senate has a history of confirming their own when they are put to the
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